Hans Georg Scholderer1

M, (7 March 1653 - )
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2nd great-grandson of Jacob Scholderer
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Jacob Scholderer descendants (Rosenfeld, Württemberg)
     Hans Georg Scholderer was born on 7 March 1653 at Rosenfeld, Oberamt Sulz, Schwarzwaldkreis, Württemberg.2,1 He was the son of Georg Scholderer and Maria Erhardt.3,1 Hans Georg Scholderer married Anna Margareta [—?—] in 1674 at Balingen, Oberamt Balingen, Schwarzwaldkreis, Württemberg.4 Hans Georg Scholderer married, at age 40, Ursula Mohr, age 26, daughter of Caspar Mohr and Anna [—?—], on Monday, 14 September 1693 at Rosenfeld, Oberamt Sulz, Schwarzwaldkreis, Württemberg.5,3,1
     Hans Georg Scholderer was also known as Hans Jerg Scholderer.6 Hans Georg Scholderer was also known as Georg Scholderer.7 Hans Georg's surname has also been spelled as Schulder.3 Hans Georg Scholderer was also known as Hanß Georg.3 He was a dyer between 1673 and 1688 at Balingen, Oberamt Balingen, Schwarzwaldkreis, Württemberg.7 The following notes are from Erika Lanz: Kevin, it is very difficult to find out about the Georg=Jerg versus Hans Georg=Georg. I am pretty positive that they are two different people:

Georg = Jerg born 1631 married Maria Erhardt, and his son Hans Georg born 1653 and married Ursula Mohr. Georg=Jerg would have been too old to have children in 1708 [age 77]. I did not however find any death entry which could give me a clue. My big hope was the marriage entry of Hans Georg, by the way I forgot to put in on the chart, marriage on 07.09.1693 [7 September 1693] H. Georg Scholderer, Bürgermeister with Ursula Mohr, Caspar Mohr's daughter. When he is mentioned it is always H. Georg, and Bürgermeister [Mayor], on his father it just switches between Georg and Jerg and no mention of a Bürgermeister’s job. If he would have been married before is would state that he was a widower (at least it should - if the parson did not forget).

I think it is just a coincidence that a Maria – H. Georg's (mother?) – died the same year he, Hans Georg, got married. But it sure is confusing.

On the 18th of May 2006 Erika sent the following additional information:

There was a marriage before in Balingen, that’s why we have not found anything in Rosenfeld. First marriage was to Anna Margareta (no family name) in Balingen in 1674 with 4 children, all born in Balingen. Second marriage was in Rosenfeld to Ursula Mohr in 1693 with 7 children.

And Brad's comments are correct, he was first Gerichts-Verwandter which means lay member of court, and then later in Rosenfeld he was the town mayor (elected). He made his living as dyer. To become mayor, a person had to have good character qualities as well as needing money. As mayor he was the first man in the community, and an honourable person.

This caused some more confusion to me, because in the birth entries of his children it says: H. Georg Scholderer. Now, this H. could stand for Hans (his name) or Herr = Mister. Entries for honourable persons usually are like: Herr Georg Scholderer, entries from “normal” people it just would say: Georg Scholderer.

Erika states that she is pretty positive that the info about the two marriage is correct, at least 80%. One thing makes me question this is because the marriage entry in 1693 does not say that he was a widower – which it usually does.5,8

Children of Hans Georg Scholderer and Anna Margareta [—?—]

Children of Hans Georg Scholderer and Ursula Mohr

Last Edited=17 Oct 2007

Citations

  1. [S801] Erika Lanz, Stuttgart, Germany [e-address for private use,] to Kevin L. Sholder, e-mail, 12 March 2006, "Scholderer in Rosenfeld pages 1 - 3," Sholder Research Files; privately held by Kevin Leonard Sholder, [(e-address) & street address for private use),] Dayton, Ohio, USA.
  2. [S749] Brad Feldmaier, "Family Group Sheets (Descendants of Eva, wife of Ulrich Scholder)," supplied 26 November 2005 ([address for private use,] New Canaan, Connecticut; USA). This report has no direct source information listed, however Brad indicated that all the records came from microfilm of the church records of Rosenfeld. shows his date of birth as 7 March 1652.
  3. [S749] Brad Feldmaier, "Descendants of Eva, wife of Ulrich Scholder."
  4. [S1308] Erika Lanz, Stuttgart, Germany [e-address for private use,] to Kevin L. Sholder, e-mail, 16 October 2007, "Rosenfeld and Freudenstadt Scholderer Updates," Sholder Research Files; privately held by Kevin Leonard Sholder, [(e-address) & street address for private use),] Dayton, Ohio, USA.
  5. [S798] Erika Lanz, Stuttgart, Germany [e-address for private use,] to Kevin L. Sholder, e-mail, 12 March 2006, "Rosenfeld - Georg = Jerg Scholderer," Sholder Research Files; privately held by Kevin Leonard Sholder, [(e-address) & street address for private use),] Dayton, Ohio, USA.
  6. [S793] Erika Lanz, Stuttgart, Germany [e-address for private use,] to Kevin L. Sholder, e-mail, 24 February 2006, "Scholderer in Balingen," Sholder Research Files; privately held by Kevin Leonard Sholder, [(e-address) & street address for private use),] Dayton, Ohio, USA.
  7. [S803] Erika Lanz, Stuttgart, Germany [e-address for private use,] to Kevin L. Sholder, e-mail, 19 March 2006, "Scholderer in Rosenfeld pages 4 - 8," Sholder Research Files; privately held by Kevin Leonard Sholder, [(e-address) & street address for private use),] Dayton, Ohio, USA.
  8. [S802] Erika Lanz, Stuttgart, Germany [e-address for private use,] to Kevin L. Sholder, e-mail, 18 May 2006, "Hans Georg Scholderer * 1653," Sholder Research Files; privately held by Kevin Leonard Sholder, [(e-address) & street address for private use),] Dayton, Ohio, USA.